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Arnold does the right thing
Arnold and I might disagree on a lot, but I will admit that once in a while he does stand up and do the right thing:
I guess Arnold remembers Jesus' poignant words: "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth," but when will he uphold the rest of GOD's laws?
Arnold does the right thing
Arnold and I might disagree on a lot, but I will admit that once in a while he does stand up and do the right thing:
SAN FRANCISCO – Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Wednesday he would not hold a clemency hearing for Clarence Allen, who is scheduled to be executed Jan. 17 for ordering the murder of three people in 1980.
Allen, 75, is the oldest man on death row, and is asking Schwarzenegger for mercy because he uses a wheelchair, is deaf and blind and suffers from other medical conditions.
I guess Arnold remembers Jesus' poignant words: "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth," but when will he uphold the rest of GOD's laws?
posted by Cheney08 | 8:09 PM
9 Comments:
Your point is exactly right. I mean, this is an okay step, but has Arnold forgotten that two years ago he put his hand on a bible and swore to defend it?
You have to candidate for the election Mel! Not only will California become a better state, but the whole world! You truly show that with this site. So much wisedom and truth, and latin! I've signed for the petition and will spread it to all my friends, and hope you'll listen to our cry.
And please write a few more poems. I can't get enough of them. I just love your writing.
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When was the last time you people actually cared about human life.
Abortion= not ok.
Capital punishment? LINE THOSE MUTHA's UP!
Seriously, what the hell does capital punishment do for you? Keep you safe? From the guy locked away, in the prison, behind 2ft of concrete? WTF?
Seriously, your gestapo tactics are not appreciated in my country, and your religeous warmongering is why MY forefathers left the old world to escape zealots like you. Please shut up.
Udo: Your liberal comparisons to the Nazi's are simplistic and unfounded. Again I ask you why is it that any time someone disagrees with a liberal, he is automatically a Nazi? That is not democracy you are promoting another form of totalitarianism, your kind. Why can't you have a healthy debate on the issue instead of just calling people names. Name calling is just a way of saying that you have no real arguments to back you up. Why should anyone take your ideas seriously if you can't even present them in a well organized arguement?
As to your execution/abortion comparison: Apples and oranges. Abortion is evil because it destroys an innocent life. Execution is moral because God said so and the person being executed has murdered someone and deserves what he gets. He had no respect for human life until his life was on the line. Sorry, God said an eye for an eye. It is God and man's law. Please come back when you have something productive to say!
Udo, your contention that our ancestors left the old world to escape "Zealots" is also wrong. The puritans left the old world because they were being persecuted in judeo-secular Europe for their Christian beliefs. Much like people like you are attacking us, calling us Nazis and the like, only because we are not ashamed of loving Jesus.
BECAUSE YOU WANT THIS MAN TO DIE. seriously you do not benifit from his death. Dont you think that it is particularly morbid to show support for someone unwilling to display compassion for an old man? Seriously is it really our job to say who is innocent or not? No one is beyond forgivness for those who seek forgivness. As all men sin, those who are saved are those who repent.
Luke 17
3So watch yourselves."If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. 4If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, 'I repent,' forgive him."
Udo: I like your new approach! Thank you for backing up your argument instead of just saying nazi nazi nazi nazi. If this man truely repents, the family of the VICTIMS should forgive him. Please remember that this "little old man" is not the victim here. The victims are the ones whom he brutally murdered. But forgiveness by man does not mean that he is off the hook for his actions.
Romans
Chapter 13, Verses 1-5
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you wish to have no fear of the authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive its approval; for it is God’s servant for your good. But if you do what is wrong, you should be afraid, for the authority does not bear the sword in vain! It is the servant of God to execute wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be subject, not only because of wrath but also because of conscience.
Peter Bernhardt, the ship sinker. Good job lad.
Peter, might want to read that bible a little more closely.
Exodus 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
Leviticus 24:17 And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death.
And remember, when Jesus gave the Sermon on the Mount, he specifically said that he was not changing these old testament rules.
Do not think that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill
Matthew 5:17
I hope this clears things up. Welcome to the site Peter.
Okielady: good point about forigiveness. Forgiveness is very important. But whether or not a family forgives a killer has nothing to do with the state's decision to execute that person.
Nice to know you have found your way back, Okie!
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